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14 February 2003 @ 11:07 am
*hugs and kisses to anyone who wants 'em*  
Happy Valentine's Day to anyone who wants those sorts of wishes. :) *gives a special kiss to a certain someone*

I heard something amusing as I drove in to work this morning on the news, which altricial and puckmalfoy especially should find interesting, though I would imagine they already know.

Apparently, Valentine's Day is basically a federally mandated holiday in Singapore. The declining birth rate in the country has concerned the government so much that they have set up all sorts of activities for single people to get together - there are supposed to be parties, kareoke, and other things - all to hopefully get people to have babies.

In all seriousness, I have no problem with encouraging people to have sex responsibly. But is this responsible, really? Is there perhaps a reason that the birth rate is declining - people are realizing they can't afford a large family, perhaps? Is the government going to pay to raise these kids? Puck or Anna, if you know any more about this, I'm curious.

But mostly I'm damned amused. >:D
I feel: flirtyflirty
I hear: Alice Peacock w/John Mayer - Bliss
No Namenystana on February 14th, 2003 09:50 am (UTC)
*scratches head*

Wonders if Singapore would think about changing their nation's Anthem to Marvin Gaye's, "Let's Get It On"? My parents found that song handy back in the day.

Vicki: Happy Happy!hermorrine on February 15th, 2003 06:15 pm (UTC)

LOL Maybe it is that simple.
Teesside Snog Monster: mobius-scarfjiggery_pokery on February 14th, 2003 10:27 am (UTC)
Sex Ed
The birth rate in the UK is dropping substantially too - can't remember what the figures really mean, which is probably fairly important, but people used to joke about "2.4 children" and I now understand the figure to be rather more like "1.6 children".

On the other hand, we famously still have one of the highest rates of teenage (might be teenage, might be underage) pregnancies in Europe, maybe the highest. I have idly wondered whether officially adopting pro-masturbation sex education policies for our schools would be effective towards counteracting this within about 5-10 years. No government would dare, but I'd like to see this.

Wilder thoughts: I wonder what the effects of legal brothels and legal, convenient, "sufficiently attractive" porn are upon the birth rate, the sex crime rate, the mental health statistics and so forth of a country?
Vicki: OH Yeahhermorrine on February 15th, 2003 06:21 pm (UTC)
Re: Sex Ed
I would LOVE to see masturbation taught in sex ed classes. Not in the sense of "here's how" (although some women could use it! Men have that easy), but in the sense of "this is a good thing." I was SO unbelievably pissed off when they fired Jocelyn Elders as Surgeon General here because she was promoting masturbation instead of abstinence. This country is fucked in the head, I swear.

I suppose there could be certain statistics about legal brothels - Amsterdam's Red Light district and the state of Nevada come to mind.
Teesside Snog Monster: gamesjiggery_pokery on February 21st, 2003 07:00 am (UTC)
Re: Sex Ed
Interesting article on BBC News today which made me think of you and this discussion: some people feel that the "A Pause" sex ed scheme used in some British schools goes too far. (The last sentence in the last quote is unfortunately prone to misinterpretation, but I suspect I'm just being bloody-minded.)

You can read more about the A Pause scheme separately. I'm not completely convinced by the idea of using 16-17 year olds to teach 13-14 year olds, but if it does work then I'll go along with it. The theory looks good; I hope it really is good in practice and that it heralds the start of a generation of kids born in the early '90s who turn out to be open-minded, well-educated, thoughtful and practical.

I do wish it had been around when I had been at school, though - it sounds very positive, quite broad and rather fun. (That's the theory, though - I can well see that it could go as badly wrong as any other type of lesson plan if the teachers or the rapport isn't quite correct.) It also has given me a strange thought; you can go back to night school for courses in all academic subjects in later life, but I can't think of any night school offering basic/remedial sex ed. Why not? (Conversely, I have long admired the places in the US offering more advanced sex ed as even recreational adult education. Would that there were more over here!)
That's what she said.: GRR ARGHaltricial on February 14th, 2003 05:20 pm (UTC)
Please note that it is not a sex promotion, it is a just to get more babies. Why? Everyone is leaving the country. Whether for work or studies. Women realised the men in Singapore are very ugly, they are marrying foreigners. People are migrating (fleeing the country). BECAUSE SINGAPORE SUCKS.

That is all.
Vicki: can't fight the R/Hhermorrine on February 15th, 2003 05:57 pm (UTC)
Please promise you will never ever move back there. *clings*
That's what she said.altricial on February 15th, 2003 06:20 pm (UTC)
*clings back*
serehmia on February 14th, 2003 07:19 pm (UTC)
Well Australia is apparently in negative-population growth. I saw a segment on one of our current affairs programs about childcare centres and how hard it is to get your kid into one, and that when you do, you end up paying three or four hundred a week. It's no wonder then that people can't afford to have kids. As well as other factors such as the way your career usually comes to a grinding halt when you have a baby. It's interesting. I've heard people who don't want children called selfish.
Vicki: Dariahermorrine on February 15th, 2003 06:00 pm (UTC)
*shakes head* The truly selfish thing would be to have children for the wrong reasons.
the youth in asia: why oh whypuckmalfoy on February 15th, 2003 01:02 am (UTC)
Well um, i'm hemming and hawing in real life really because my country is so goddamned lame :((

Yes, such a thing is happening right now and actually it's called "Romancing Singapore". My country is stupidl ike this, it has all sorts of weird campaigns like don't litter or speak good english. perhaps they have too much free time. anyway, this romancing singapore thing is to just get people together and "have families"...i think they're trying to do the whole "if you have a family, you must have 21-3981-2938 kids" thing.

i hate it, because they're even planning stupid things like...in the libraries, all the singles get together and talk about their favourite books and they could maybe get together from that. :-L

the good thing is that though, they have cool shit like film screenings in the outdoors in some cool places. i don't mind that very much, because that is just too cool for words. :))

k i shut up now.

Vicki: MWAHhermorrine on February 15th, 2003 06:04 pm (UTC)
No, thanks for telling me all that! I do find it interesting, however sad really.

I mean, do they honestly think that it will help people get together, get married and procreate? It would be interesting to see if the birth rate does go up in the next year or two.

That's what she said.: -.-altricial on February 15th, 2003 06:21 pm (UTC)
*waits for Singapore to ban condoms*