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21 January 2003 @ 02:16 pm
There's no such thing as "Anonymous"  
I love people who don't understand how the internet works.

*looks at the physical street address of the person who left a less-than-nice comment "anonymously"*

I don't think that I'm the one who needs to buy a clue, but thanks for playing.
 
 
I feel: deviousdevious
 
 
 
ex_thezeppo783 on January 21st, 2003 12:43 pm (UTC)
Who left the comment? Where? (And oo. Can anyone do that?)
Rhi's Archnemesisnostrademons on January 21st, 2003 01:03 pm (UTC)
O.o? Yes, with IP logging it's possible (actually fairly easy) to find out the IP address of an anonymous poster. But going from IP address to street address is supposed to be quite difficult, something that's generally impossible for laypeople to do.

To start with, the IP address may not belong to a single customer. Dial-up and Dial-On-Demand DSL (PPPoE) customers often have a "dynamic IP", meaning they get assigned a new one every time they connect. Some cable providers are like that too...they use DHCP, so every time the computer (or router) boots up, it gets assigned a new IP.

Tracing the IP back to an initial customer requires access to the ISP's logs. The vast majority, if not all, of them do keep such information - it's necessary in case terrorists/crackers/other malevolent people were to use their service to perpetrate a cybercrime. But most refuse to release such information without a court order. Most people would consider doing so a gross violation of privacy.

I'm very curious how you managed to get the street address of a random anonymous commenter. The only times I've done so are when I already had the street address of said commenter, and then tracked the IP to ISP (this part is trivial), tracked the ISP to a geographical area (also fairly trivial), and then matched up the area to the address. But if it's a complete stranger, I don't see how you could come up with an address unless you have a valid reason for the ISP to release such information.
veelawebmaster on January 21st, 2003 01:35 pm (UTC)
Careful nostry: this l33t hacker may track you down and shut off all your bank accounts! Ooooo dangerous hacker.

For those of you who care, here are some generic tools you can use to get information about a person (and see what information is available about yourself):
http://privacy.net/analyze/
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/privacy/files/smith.htm (more about IP addresses)
http://www.arin.net/whois/ (may give the street address of the owner of a domain name, but that's only if the domain name owner has chosen to give that information)

This one will tell you your IP address:
http://ops.sprint-canada.net/
and this one will tell you who "you" are:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi

Most of you will see there's not a lot of very useful information out there based on your IP address. As for the "I've got your street address"...umm, are you sure you know what you're looking at? My guess is that you *may* have found the street address of the ISP, but it is highly unlikely you were able to find a residential street address.
Vicki: can't fight the R/Hhermorrine on January 21st, 2003 02:18 pm (UTC)
*sigh* I see that the fine line between sarcasm and truth has been missed here. And yes, I KNOW it's hard to get that across in text.

My point was simply that I know roundabout where this person is and if they want to say something nasty to me, they should not bother to be anonymous as I log IP addresses and it IS ridiculously easy to trace them. I was being a bit facetious.
Vicki: OH Yeahhermorrine on January 21st, 2003 02:25 pm (UTC)
No comment. And yes, to a limited extent. I was exaggerating when I said I had the street address of the person, but I guess no one else got that.
Eldridlokechild on January 21st, 2003 08:48 pm (UTC)
*raises hand* I understood what you meant. Silly people, trix are for kidds! *smooch*
veelawebmaster on January 21st, 2003 01:22 pm (UTC)
U R so l33t
U R kool. Can I be your friend?
Vicki: CLex Morrihermorrine on January 21st, 2003 02:23 pm (UTC)
Re: U R so l33t
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That's what she said.: ?altricial on January 21st, 2003 03:00 pm (UTC)
Re: U R so l33t
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queerasjohn on January 21st, 2003 04:46 pm (UTC)
Re: U R so l33t
Again with the ...